Wednesday, October 9, 2013

Fishbowl #8, Chapters 24 and 25 of The Kite Runner

Welcome to your eighth and final fish bowl!

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(A) Bring at least one quotation and/or page reference into at least one of your responses.
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(D) Comment frequently from the beginning of the conversation to the end.


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69 comments:

  1. What role does religion play in the lives of Baba, Amir, and Assef, and in the novel as a whole?

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    1. In this book religion plays a big part about what happens to the characters in the book. For example when the Taliban take over Afghanistan they make a lot of rules that wouldn't be there is the Taliban had not taken over. They also think that it is alright to kill the Hazara`s just because that is what it says in their religion.

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  2. We see this again “For you, a thousand times over,” Amir says (p. 371), What is the significance of this appearing so often?

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  3. Why do you think Sohrab is afraid hat Amir and Soraya will get tired of him?

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    1. Sohrab doesn't want to go back the an orphanage because he is afraid he will get beat and abused if he goes back.

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  4. I think that violence did act as a motif becuase it was to show that afghanistan was never going to be the same again and to show how bad the country is. I think the amount of deaths in the book are there to show that nothing lives forever and its time to move on from everything that happened in the past.

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  5. Violence is defonatly a reacuring theme in this book because in almost every chapter there is violence or someone being killed or lost and its just about how the characters deal with it or dont deal with it and run away as "Amir does in chapter 7"

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  6. What is the significance of when Amir says," For you a thousand times over." on page 371 when they are flying the kite together?

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    1. It is significant because that is what Hassan said to Amir the last time they flew kites together. Before everything went bad. So it is a sign that Amir has forgiven himself an is finally better.

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  7. Who suffers the most in The Kite Runner? Who do you think?

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    1. In the Kite Runner Amir suffers the most because he has to go through many obstacles. Also, he committed a sin that lived on with him and he couldn't get rid of it unless he was forgiven. Then, everyone that Amir lived knew in Kabul was dead so that was really tough on him.

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  8. How do you think Amir was impacted by Soharbs' attempted suicide on page 349?

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    1. I'd imagine that Amir would be very upset. He all that time was praying for him. He got beat up in order to set him free from Assef. Then he just gives up, commits suicide, and makes it all pointless efforts of care.

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    2. I could imagine he would be pretty hurt over it because suicide is not a joke.

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  9. Answering to Nick: I think he just doesn't want to go back to an orphanage. He has such a bad time in the last one, so it has told him that it is bad where ever he goes. But I also think he feels guilt because of what happened in the past. So he feels like he is worth nothing.

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  10. On page 371, “For you, a thousand times over.” this is what was said by Hassan in the winter of 1975. Why do you think Amir would repeat this? Does it show that he is thinking about the good times he had with Hassan, instead of what happened in the winter of 1975?

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    1. I think that this quote represent the idea that in the beginning of the story, Hasaan tells Amir this and we see that Hasaan deeply cares about Amir. Amir feels this way too but it takes him a long time to realize it. When Amir says "for you a thousand times over" in the end of the book to Sohrab, in a sense he is saying it to Hasaan himself.

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  11. Do you guys think that Amir and Assef will ever come into contact again? If so, so you think there is a chance that Amir will stand up for himself and fight back? Assef has made his life miserable and Amir, although he has fulfilled his "redemption", but he has never Stood up for HIMSELF against Assef rather than letting himself get beat up physically and emotionally by the fact thathe is still seen smaller to Assef.

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    1. I think that they won't ever meet again, and by going to see Assef and save sohrab, he is standing up for himself.

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    2. /i can see how that is seen as standing up for himself but its almost kind of an oxymoron if you think about it. Standing up for yourself by letting yourself get beat up? Just doesn't seem like the kind thing someone would want to happen. Who knows, maybe if Amir fought back,Everything could have been different. How do you think the story could have changed if Amir hadstood up and ended the bullying even before the rape?

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  12. How does the violence in Afghanistan symbolize change?

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    1. Because long ago Afghanistan lived in harmony but everything changed when the Taliban attacked. That is change.

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  13. On page 332, the man in the U.S. embassy tells Amir, "It's a dangerous business making promises to kids." Why is this dangerous?

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    1. It is dangerous because when you are anywhere but the U.S not everything will go your way. Especially when you are in Afghanistan it is really hard with the Taliban and stuff like that.

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    2. This is "dangerous" because nothing is a promise when you are immigrating to another country, and that there is a good chance that Sohrab might not get his passport.

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  14. Nick- I think he tryed to kill himself becuase he said " I want to go back to my old life"

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  15. Sorhab wanted to go back to his normal life, that is why he committed suicide, or attempted to. I think that Sorab believes he has guilt and Amir does not see that. Sorhab is not guilty and he doesn't know what path to take. On page 354 Sorab says, "I want my old life back." And when Sorhab is in the ER I believe that it means a lot to Amir because this is the last piece of Amir and he holds on to Sorhab because he sees good in Amir. Amir prayed when Sorhab was in the ER for the first time in over a decade.

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  16. Who do you think is the real hero in the story Amir, Hassan, Sohrab, or anyone else?

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    1. I think that in the end Amir turned out as a hero because he takes beating instead of Sorhab and that showed great heroism.

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    2. In the end i think Amir is the real hero. Even though he didn't help Hassan he was just a kid and now that he grew up he knew it was wrong and he did everything he could to get him son back and is taking care of him now, and got revenge on Assef.

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    3. Amir because he is the main character of the book and is looking to set things right.

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  17. On page 371 Amir says "For you, a thousand times over." Do you Think that this quote isn't just referencing Hassan but is a sign that Amir is finally forgiving himself?

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  18. I think Amir not wanting anyone to call Sohrab a hazara around him is because of Hassan and him being called that is the lowest class and an insultto him.

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  19. The orphanage didnt let Amir adopt him because he didnt really have any proof that he was his unkle

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    1. Actually it was that, and there was no proof that he was an orphan because there was no death certificates for his parents, so for all they could know his parents still could have been alive.

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  20. I think that Amir praying was very significant becuase on page 345 "then i remember I haven't prayed for over 15 years. I have long forgotten the words" This is saying that he hasnt prayed in a very long time so he didnt know the words or anything but it didn't matter he was just praying to get his nephew out alive.

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  21. What do you think that Amir is going to do now that he has the boy and that they have gone back to america?

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    1. They will live happily ever after in the distant land of America and maybe start a cool punk band.

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    2. I think he is going to finally forgive himself because he is good again. Also, he brought happiness to Sohrab and I think that was what Amir had had been trying to do in order to find forgiveness.

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  22. On pg. 355 it says " '---wish you hadn't... I wish you had left me in the water' ". Why do you think Sohrab says this? Do you think he is a bit too young to be suicidal? Why do you think he would rather die than go back to an orphanage, besides the fact he will probably get abused?

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    1. I think that Sohrab is tired of being taken by one person, and then someone else comes into his life. It just seems like he never gets a break. He is just tired of life, and at this moment he just wants to quit.

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  23. Do you think Sorhab's silence symbolizes anything significant?

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    1. I think that it shows everything that this child has been through and how much it has impacted his life and scared him.

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  24. When Hassan was getting his lip sergery do you think this was forshadowing of Sohrab in the hospital? Or do you think that is is just another reference to Hassan?

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  25. Why did Amir stay at the hospital If sohrab didnt want Amir to be there?How does this effect Amirs emotions

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  26. Dalton- I agree with Dalton because I believe that Sohrab is to young to know about what happens with Hassan

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  27. "Your father and I where brothers." What is the importance of this quote and how does it impact Sohrab and his life.

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    1. It demonstrates that they were close friends as if they were brothers.

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  28. If there was no religion how would the outcome of this book change?

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    1. The book would be entirely different because there would be no Taliban and everyone would be happy.

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  29. If Hassan woundlent had been killed would sohrab still try to kill him self?

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  30. On page 345, Amir prays for the first time in 15 years at the time when he needs help the most. This is another example of the presence of religion in the book.

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  31. I think all that Sarahb has known is being forgotten and annoying people with his presence, and that is why he is afraid of Amir and his wife growing tired of him and putting him back in a orphanage

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  32. Why was Amir flying a kite again with Hassans son important?

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    1. It is important because Amir and Hassan ran kites when they were kids, then with everything happened, and now Amir is with Hassan's son without Hassan, and then quoting Hassan, it is important because it brings it all back together and brings Amir and Sorhab together

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  33. Ryan- I agree that Shorab is the only thing Amir has left and he really wants sohrab to love him.

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  34. Do you guys think that Amir is trying to gain redemption by taking care of Sohrab?

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  35. “For you, a thousand times over,” Amir says (p. 371), why is this significant and why does it come up more often then not and what is causing it?

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  36. Do you think that Amir has completed the hero's journey and do you think that he has gained redemption?

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  37. On page 359, Amir says "I wondered if thats how forgiveness budded, not with the fanfare of epiphany, but with pain slipping away unnoticed in the middle of the night." How can this quote explain how Amir feels about forgiveness

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  38. The way that Amir can be forgiven for his actions to Hassan is that Sorhab has to see Amir as a role model, hero, and a great leader and father. Now that Amir has adopted Sorhab, I feel that Amir is forgiven by Sorhab, which means that Hassan can forgive him.

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  39. How well do you think that Sohrab will adjust to America? It seems like an even larger change than the one Amir had to go through when he came to america .

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  40. when Hassan says, " “There is a way to be good again...” do you think that Amir will take his advice and forgive himself?

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  41. I think the way they ended the book was a very appropriate way to end the book because it makes all of the good memories about Hassan come back so he can reflect on them because on page 371 "for you a thousand times over" this echos from what Hassan said when they were kids

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  42. "Does he have any interests," he said." What is the importance of this quote?

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  43. I really liked this book and recommend it. It always kept me thinking whats gonna happen next.

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  44. On chapter 25, I think it interesting how Amir raises a Hazara boy, unlike Baba did with Hassan. That even though religion is a key factor in Amir's heritage he still can find a way through it.

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  46. Amir finally realized what he needed to do to redeem himself from his past, which is why he feels so connected to Sohrab and why he did everything he could to take him home with him. Other than the fact that he is his half uncle, Amir knows that after what happened with Assef there is no way they can just be parted so easily, and Sohrab would rather die than stay at a childrens home (Page 343). He is relieved now that he knows Hassan would forgive him fully for what he did and can live life with Sohrab as a reminder of Hassan's goodness towards him, and now is confident that he can return the favor.

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